Tungsten cored bullets

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 11 Feb 2015, 21:29

Those guys are good. Not much about ammo they don't know about.
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by ewetstone » 11 Feb 2015, 21:36

panzermk2 wrote:Those guys are good. Not much about ammo they don't know about.
Are you being serious? You would buy from them?

On a side note Jay....would you have any 10mm auto self defense rounds?

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 12 Feb 2015, 01:19

ewetstone wrote:
panzermk2 wrote:Those guys are good. Not much about ammo they don't know about.
Are you being serious? You would buy from them?

On a side note Jay....would you have any 10mm auto self defense rounds?

OH Jeeze, the collectors forum. They where the first to spot my ripped off bullet being sold by someone else. I belong to the IAA

I will try and get a run of 10mm out soon
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by ShootingSight » 15 Feb 2015, 07:46

I looked at making tungsten cored bullets a few years back for competitive shooting, but the cost was high, like $4 per bullet, plus it is not easy to work tungsten.

Stuff does not machine easily, and the melt point is high enough that it does not cast well. The way most do it is to take tungsten powder and press it, sometimes with a binder. Problem is that there are microvoids between the particles, so while the density of tungsten is very high, the average density of a powdered tungsten is enough lower that if you are more dense than lead, it isn't by much.

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 15 Feb 2015, 10:11

Get free machining tungsten, what do you think I make my PS90 rate reducers from?
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by bruteandbear1 » 16 Feb 2015, 16:16

ShootingSight wrote:I looked at making tungsten cored bullets a few years back for competitive shooting, but the cost was high, like $4 per bullet, plus it is not easy to work tungsten.

Stuff does not machine easily, and the melt point is high enough that it does not cast well. The way most do it is to take tungsten powder and press it, sometimes with a binder. Problem is that there are microvoids between the particles, so while the density of tungsten is very high, the average density of a powdered tungsten is enough lower that if you are more dense than lead, it isn't by much.
Yes SIR that exactly what I said It is just not economical. It is not easy to work with and for the 5.7x28mm the steel penetrators in the ss190 does the job fine while still being cheap to manufacture.

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Re: Tungsten Cored 45 grain Bullets a Myth, Really?

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 18 Feb 2015, 20:39

Soft steel dumpster? 22lr would go through that.
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by PursuitSS » 18 Feb 2015, 20:45

The guy advertising the ELP ammo is apparently a full blown nut job, or extremely sarcastic.

A 5.7x28 round with a 9 gr projectile traveling 4,000 fps and less than a 2" drop at 500 yards :lmao:

The round wouldn't even travel 500 yards.

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 18 Feb 2015, 22:21

OH it would travel, once. The min weight to cycle the action on a FsN with factory spring is about 20gr.

He is plugging numbers into Point Blank software.
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by fntech1 » 19 Feb 2015, 00:10

22lr. penetrating soft steel? Please show us a video of the 22lr steel (dumpster) penetration qualities you are referring to. Thanks.

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 19 Feb 2015, 12:45

That dumpster is the over sized type designed for paper and light weight bulky garbage.

Just after rural road signs if you find them in BFE they will be filled with holes. I never bothered to take a pic because, well why? Who has not seen a 55gal drum filled with holes and though damn I need a pic of that?
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by fntech1 » 19 Feb 2015, 14:28

Ok., Jay. How about you PM me an address to send you a sample, fair? Then, you can video-report the results here, online. Eat it, if you must. Nobody, knows everything. A whole lot of S...t going on out here, brother..

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 19 Feb 2015, 14:35

Fine I have some AR500 plates here for testing.
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 19 Feb 2015, 14:42

Although if he is making tungsten bullets he better have a type 10FFL.
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by fntech1 » 19 Feb 2015, 14:46

Great. I will send a sample to you.

PS: I do not make or manufacture ammunition.

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by bruteandbear1 » 21 Feb 2015, 16:15

So are one of you guys making a tungsten cored prototype round for the FSN?

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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 21 Feb 2015, 23:38

LOL no type 10FFL costs way to much unless you have some massive government contract. Even then there are other options out there that aren't on the list.

Now making them on the side, selling them,without an FFL AND being 5.7x28mm, a round the ATF watches with a micro scope, will only end poorly when the come after you.
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by Rapier1772 » 22 Feb 2015, 01:04

Can you make your own without getting hassled?
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Re: Tungsten cored bullets

Post by panzermk2 » 22 Feb 2015, 15:40

Nope.

A private citizen can own, shoot, sell and buy AP ammo.

Manufacturing is where the sh!t storm of laws and regulations come at you in a big way.
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