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Post by panzermk2 » 01 Jan 2010, 12:31

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Post by tdevince » 01 Jan 2010, 13:11

Had mine done last year. I highly recommend this for anyone considering EA's trigger job. It definitely changes the personality of the gun for the better.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 01 Jan 2010, 22:29

:agree:
I get a lot of comments on how much better the tweaked one is than the standard. I've posted my comments on their work at least 3 times, do a search :p
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boy i wish i could do it but i'll be away for 3 months very soon

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Post by blueorison » 02 Jan 2010, 17:43

is harmer the new EA designation for the part once you modify the hammer?
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Post by VITALIY » 02 Jan 2010, 17:59

Good one :laugh:

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Post by blueorison » 02 Jan 2010, 18:42

OH MAN LOOK AT ALL THESE PLETHORA OF CONCERNS POSTED ALREADY

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Post by Esteves » 02 Jan 2010, 19:34

VITALIY wrote:A little correction:
we will not increase harmer mass, but rather increase harmer spring preload 20-30% for crisper disconect, and and fail free ignition, as the harmer will gaine more momentum.
That makes much more sense. Should lead to shorter lock-time also.
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Post by FSNTAC » 02 Jan 2010, 20:44

A crisper harmer is what ive been looking for. Thank God Vit is back!

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I smell...

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Post by Captan Harold D » 03 Jan 2010, 07:38

Is there a reccomended break-in period (times fired, etc.) prior to the trigger job?
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Post by VITALIY » 03 Jan 2010, 10:53

Captan Harold D wrote:Is there a recommended break-in period (times fired, etc.) prior to the trigger job?
Actually none, the sooner i get my hands on it the better the trigger will be. The reason being that I'd have much more material to work with. But do not be troubled if it has being fired, the difference is negligible, up to 2k shots.

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Post by Cyberfly » 03 Jan 2010, 15:16

Good to have ya back Roma!
When Jay told me you'd be coming back...well, let's just say I got this evil grin and sure wished you could do custom work on Rugers! :laugh:
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Post by VITALIY » 03 Jan 2010, 15:56

Thanks! Ive being missing the action all yearl :guns:

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Post by fooschnickens » 03 Jan 2010, 20:26

Well, missing the action on here, at least. Sure there were plenty of storms out there to tickle your fancy.
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Post by blueorison » 03 Jan 2010, 20:33

Hey vitaly you needa do a thread on a storm review and post some vids, yeah?
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Post by VITALIY » 03 Jan 2010, 23:09

Im to tired of my work, and totally injoing my piece of quiet in my basement "GUNGEON" :D .

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VITALIY wrote:Im to tired of my work, and totally injoing my piece of quiet in my basement "GUNGEON" :D .
Wait, you mean to say that it isn't all fun and games having ice rocks fall from the heavens and bang up your head? :lmao:
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Post by 5Jeffro7 » 04 Jan 2010, 05:39

I can't beleive this!

All the bitching & moaning about the service being discontinued & now that it's back, only what, 10 guns on the list to have trigger jobs...

get on the stick, guys, we're never gonna convince vitaliy to stay with that lackluster of turnout

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Post by Powerstroke Racer » 04 Jan 2010, 15:24

anybody know if they would need a magazine sent in with the gun?

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Nope, just the pistol :)
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panzermk2wife wrote:Nope, just the pistol :)
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Post by TheNeko » 06 Jan 2010, 10:09

A question - not really a concern -- will EA update the first post in the other thread with the status/progress? E.g. put a star or something next to the ones that are done, etc. so we get an idea of how fast EA id making it through the list...? Thx

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Post by panzermk2 » 06 Jan 2010, 10:45

We have not figured out how we are going to do that yet. If we put something up to soon then the next guy on the list will be asking to send his gun in.
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One minor point, Jay.
whatever you typed in blue (and occasionally yellow font, too) is almost impossible to read on most pc monitors (especially on glossy monitors).

Really!

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Post by panzermk2wife » 06 Jan 2010, 14:02

Oh I just wanted to make a quick point due to the increased interest since the waiting list was posted.
Waiting List thread viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6457

Because this is limited service due to Vitaliy's work season (storm chasing) you must be a forum member to get yourself on the list for this service. It is not on the official or the forum only website.

I will send out a pm before it is time for you to ship your pistol out asking if you are just doing the trigger work or if you are opting for one of our sight packages as well.

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Post by VITALIY » 06 Jan 2010, 15:41

TheNeko wrote:A question - not really a concern -- will EA update the first post in the other thread with the status/progress? E.g. put a star or something next to the ones that are done, etc. so we get an idea of how fast EA id making it through the list...? Thx
Im not going to make any perdictions, but, lust year i wos torn between making ammo and trigger work, and this time trigger work is the only thing ill be doing.
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Post by Llagoud » 06 Jan 2010, 15:48

It would require forum member participation....but we could edit our own posts in the 'call your spot' thread as sent/in process/returned/joy at the range........

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panzermk2 wrote:We have not figured out how we are going to do that yet. If we put something up to soon then the next guy on the list will be asking to send his gun in.
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Post by Llagoud » 14 Jan 2010, 02:46

Wow.


Thank you Vitaliy/EA. This is sweeeeet.

I'll hit the range ASAP.

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:gavel: Range report from the Gulch! :guns:

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Post by VITALIY » 14 Jan 2010, 12:33

Llagoud wrote:Wow.


Thank you Vitaliy/EA. This is sweeeeet.

I'll hit the range ASAP.
My plesure :) I too look forward for range report.

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Post by blueorison » 14 Jan 2010, 14:55

Me three.
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Post by PearlMonte » 17 Jan 2010, 16:33

The List is 20+ Guns Long now, any guess on how long it might take to get this far into the list. I want to have work done, hopefully if im lucky enough, I been waiting for this to become available, now me excised :D

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Lets just say 9 will be coming off the list later today :D
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Post by SoCal Gunner » 19 Feb 2011, 15:27

Hey guys,

What's the current status on the Accurizing service? I can't take this trigger any more and I'm planning on buying a new toy, so it will be easier to live without my 5.7 for a while.

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I sent out the 2nd set of 5 emails last Sunday
The next 5 go out on Sunday
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Post by Straight-G » 19 Feb 2011, 16:47

Hi Lisa,

Can you please send me a link to a page that describes what you do to the gun to accurize it? How many pounds is the trigger pull before and after the accurizing?

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Post by SoCal Gunner » 19 Feb 2011, 17:10

panzermk2wife wrote:I sent out the 2nd set of 5 emails last Sunday
The next 5 go out on Sunday
OK, searching around, it sounds like you have a list established and people send their firearms in when prompted? What kind of wait time are we talking about for the list (I know, I know, just an estimate/ in general)?

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I have been sending out to 5 people every couple of weeks or so
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Post by panzermk2 » 20 Feb 2011, 22:05

Straight-G wrote:Hi Lisa,

Can you please send me a link to a page that describes what you do to the gun to accurize it? How many pounds is the trigger pull before and after the accurizing?

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As for the number of rounds before the trigger work... I sent mine in a year ago without me having fired the weapon at all, had it less than 1 hour. As for the comments on the work, the BEST money I have spent on a weapon modification EVER!!!. Normal you can feel a "break" when the trigger "fires", but after the work, even a year later and 1500 rounds, it is still as smooth as glass and new (to the 57) still cannot feel the break, even though they can feel it on their own weapon. For any fence sitters, I highly recommend the work and the Night Sights. I have had nothing but praise when people have compared a modified and my weapon side by side.

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Post by SHEEPDOG » 24 Feb 2011, 22:55

Mine went out today. I shot Blues at our recent shoot and had to get mine done.

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swe123 wrote:Mine went out today. I shot Blues at our recent shoot and had to get mine done.
Can you please send me the tracking number so I know when to expect it
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Post by 32blownhemi » 07 Jun 2011, 16:43

Hi, how do I go about getting this done? Just got my 5 7 last week & only have 200 rd's through it. I love it! BUT, don't like the 'slack' in the trigger! Also, night sights! Thanks, Bill

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32blownhemi wrote:Hi, how do I go about getting this done? Just got my 5 7 last week & only have 200 rd's through it. I love it! BUT, don't like the 'slack' in the trigger! Also, night sights! Thanks, Bill
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NOOB Alert!!! :)

I have been reading on this and have a bunch of questions.

Will this affect reliability in any way?
Long term Performance?
Safety?
is this just for competition?
do you recommend it for SD, HD and CCW?
why is this called Acurizing if this is trigger work

a few more on what is listed on the website. :ponder:
This is what the website list and my thought on what they mean.

Removal of magazine safety == is this the ability to pull the trigger with no magazine? why does so many people ask to keep it that now you offer it as a option?

Smoothing of the hammer to sear contact. Greatly improves trigger action and creates a crisp release == I realy don't understand what you mean by crisper?

Reducing trigger pull by 50% == you only need to pull the trigger half of the distance. is this in takeup or overtravel?

Increase hammer spring pre-load 20-30% for crisper disconnect == Again I dont really understand what crisper means. does this reduces uptake or makes the trigger lighter?

Chamber lapping. Aids in extraction and protection of coating on brass == extract the brass better and in doesent damage it as much.

Polish and Tune extractor == ???? what does this do for me?

Polishing and Fitting (too much to list) and a detailed cleaning including correct lubrication == I don't need a list but don't get what it does for me?

Each gun is tested to deliver a 4-pound trigger pull before leaving the shop == how many pounds is the regular trigger pull?

I understand that some things are hard to explain but I want to know if this is something I want to put money on it
Sorry for all the noob questions.

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Post by Rapier1772 » 07 Jun 2011, 23:55

I could've sworn we an entire thread dedicated to questions like this :ponder: Where did it go? I looked so I am not going to fault eVenom; but I will note that the info is out there, somewhere :D I am trying to go off memory on these so if I am off base on anything, EA (or anyone who knows) please let me know.

Will this affect reliability in any way? No, if anything it will make it more reliable since they increase the tension on the hammer spring which gives even stubborn primers a reason to fire.

Long term Performance? Mine is going on 2.5 years w/a couple thousand rounds (including some hot reloads) and no problems.

Safety? No effect on safety

Is this just for competition? No. While there is some debate about using a modified pistol for self defense (depending on who you talk to), in my state (Idaho) they only care if it is a justified shooting. The easier operation also translates into more accurate follow up shots as needed. If you hunt with your FsN, it could help you there as well.

Do you recommend it for SD, HD and CCW? Absolutely, my Accurized FsN is my primary CCW.

Why is this called Acurizing if this is trigger work? Because they work on more than just the trigger & you will notice a change in your accuracy.

Removal of magazine safety: Yes, it is the safety mechanism which keeps you from firing a round unless there is a magazine inserted. Some states require a magazine safety but it will effect the trigger pull. It will be a lighter pull without the mag safety but check your state laws.

Smoothing of the hammer to sear contact. I realy don't understand what you mean by crisper? Get it done, you will notice a change. IIRC, mine felt like it had a very slight double click as I squeezed the trigger before I had it done. If you were really paying attention when dry firing you may even feel a little movement like metal on metal but you had to be trying to feel it. Afterwards, it was no extra room for movement, no clicks, just boom.

Reducing trigger pull by 50%: Trigger pull refers to the pressure applied to the trigger. The pressure needed in order to fire the gun will be about half of what it is from the factory. This will effect your accuracy as well. I think the factory pull weight is about 6.5 pounds but EA's is between 3-4 pounds.

Polishing and Fitting (too much to list) and a detailed cleaning including correct lubrication: Guns come from the factory built to certain specs. Not all of the surfaces are polished and sometimes there is some play in the joints. Detailed cleaning gets the debris you miss in standard cleaning. If you're going to send your gun in to get torn apart & revamped, you may as well have them clean & lube it :laugh: Easier to work with that way anyway (at least mine is)

Will this void the warranty? how big of a deal is this? Will this affect the ability to get support by FN? As per panzermk2 - The official corp policy is YES. This is also the same for every single other maker. Have a Colt with a crappy trigger, have it worked on? Voids the warranty.
Now that being said there has been a person or two that has buggered up their guns on their own AFTER EA worked on them and FNH still warrantied them.
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:thumb: What he said.
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Thank you Rapier1772!!! ;) BIll

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Time to start saving my change...

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a couple more questions

Will this VOID the warranty? how big of a deal is this?


Will this affect the ability to get support by FN?

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Post by Rapier1772 » 09 Jun 2011, 05:46

Added your questions onto the other list so we can keep everything together & not have to go searching again. Unfortunately, I could only answer 1 question with certainty. Anyone else care to chime in, preferably with experience in that area?

I can always edit my post to add the correct/complete answers later
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Post by panzermk2 » 09 Jun 2011, 11:14

eVenom wrote:a couple more questions

Will this VOID the warranty? how big of a deal is this?


Will this affect the ability to get support by FN?

The official corp policy is YES. This is also the same for every single other maker. Have a Colt with a crappy trigger, have it worked on? Voids the warranty.

Now that being said there have been a person or two that has buggered up their guns on their own AFTER EA worked on them and FNH still warrantied them.
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Post by Grantness » 09 Jun 2011, 11:17

Just send it back to EA if FN won't touch it (but I bet they would), they can fix anything and make it better than it was before... :D

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Post by FNForever » 02 Oct 2011, 15:39

Im wondering how bad the SA trigger on the FsN is. I pick it up on Thursday and all of these interests in the trigger work have me wondering.

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Post by MikeSantor » 02 Oct 2011, 16:09

The stock trigger isn't horrible, but When you get the works done by EA the difference is huge. I don't swing on anyones tree. If the accurizing wasn't good, I would say it wasn't, or wasn't worth the money. But I can honestly say that the difference is night and day. But in the same sense, its not like your going to get your fiveseven and be all disappointing in the trigger pull...

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Post by RC57 » 03 Oct 2011, 07:26

Like others have said, the stock trigger isn't bad at all. I've definitely seen much worse factory triggers. However, the EA trigger job makes it much nicer. Worth every penny.

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I just got mine back and the improvement in the trigger is amazing!!!!

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Post by SoCal Gunner » 10 Oct 2011, 14:35

You guys honestly think that the trigger "isn't that bad to begin with"? Maybe I just got a lemon, but my FSN had the worst factory trigger I've ever owned. Especially for a $1K gun.

Big +1 for the EA trigger job.

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Post by RC57 » 12 Oct 2011, 16:48

My stock trigger really wasn't horrible. Definitely nothing to get excited about at all though. However, everyone that knows guns that has checked out my EA trigger has responded, "Wow, that's nice!"

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Post by UpandComer » 01 Nov 2011, 14:52

How much is this trigger job and how long does it take to complete?

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panzermk2wife wrote:All the answers can be found on the website

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Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along? :)

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LOL!!!!!!

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Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along? :)
Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:
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panzermk2wife wrote:
Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along? :)
Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:
Pants on fire! You always do answer, even if it's not the one we're looking for. You guys communicate better than pretty much everyone else out there in my experience.

So, can I have my gun back now please :p
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jgreenberg01 wrote:
panzermk2wife wrote:
Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along? :)
Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:
Pants on fire! You always do answer, even if it's not the one we're looking for. You guys communicate better than pretty much everyone else out there in my experience.

So, can I have my gun back now please :p
Well, it worked for jgreenberg01 as he got his gun back, so I thought I'd try!... Quote; "So, can I have my gun back now please"... Un-quote... ;) Thanks, Bill

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32blownhemi wrote:
jgreenberg01 wrote:
panzermk2wife wrote:
Buffman wrote:Are we allowed to bug you to ask how our guns are coming along? :)
Sure you can ask but I won't answer :lmao:
Pants on fire! You always do answer, even if it's not the one we're looking for. You guys communicate better than pretty much everyone else out there in my experience.

So, can I have my gun back now please :p
Well, it worked for jgreenberg01 as he got his gun back, so I thought I'd try!... Quote; "So, can I have my gun back now please"... Un-quote... ;) Thanks, Bill

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panzermk2 wrote:You send me adult rated pics of hot naked girlfriends and you might. Hi Mel!
I wouldn't say that she was naked. She was wearing ProtecTORs in strategic (or should that be tactical? :p ) places, oh and an EA hat...
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Damn, sounds like there was some interesting stuff floating around before my time...

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MikeSantor wrote:Damn, sounds like there was some interesting stuff floating around before my time...
I didn't start the thread, but here is where it began:
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Post by 32blownhemi » 04 Dec 2011, 21:24

Ah ha, so that's it! Well, I asked my GF & she said "NO"... BUT, I bought her a bottle of Vodka for Christmas, so we'll see! ;)

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Post by 32blownhemi » 05 Dec 2011, 10:01

Ok, naked pic's are on the way ;) Incredible difference! He sent his in on Oct. 17Th & already got it back! ;)... I sent mine in on Sept. 29th & still haven't :(... Ya just got a love these forums with all the available info! ;)

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Hemi,

remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.

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blueorison wrote:Hemi,

remember that not all FsN's are created equal. Mine took much more work than the majority of the others, here.

Patience wins every time. :)
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Got mine back today. My only complaint so far seems to be that the mags don't eject very well at all now that the disconnect is gone. Has anyone or EA modified the mag disconnect to just be long enough to put pressure on the magazine, but not interfere with the trigger bar? Otherwise really impressed. I can spot the polished and lapped parts, and the trigger lost at least 2lbs :)
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My mags still eject forcefully, I see no difference in that sense.
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Mine aren't as forceful as they were unless there is still a round or two in the mag. However, I've never had a problem dropping the mag - empty or loaded.
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Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.

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Post by panzermk2 » 06 Dec 2011, 21:49

Buffman wrote:Got mine back today. My only complaint so far seems to be that the mags don't eject very well at all now that the disconnect is gone. Has anyone or EA modified the mag disconnect to just be long enough to put pressure on the magazine, but not interfere with the trigger bar? Otherwise really impressed. I can spot the polished and lapped parts, and the trigger lost at least 2lbs :)

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Buffman wrote:Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.

Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
Hey Buffman, from what you are saying, it makes it sound like the 20-rounder overshoots the catch? How is it possible if it goes above where it needs to be and not "click" on the mag release? Could you explain more? Thanks.
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blueorison wrote:
Buffman wrote:Could be just my gun, but I recall it being able originally to drop the promag(30rder)I have on slide lock. Now it doesn't seem to want to. I have one factory 20rounder, that If I slam home, it seems to go alittle above where it needs to be, and the mag lock engages, but doesn't click, and the mag sits there from tension on the release.. I inspected my release and it didn't look that worn.

Other than that, I can't wait to fire it hopefully tomorrow.
Hey Buffman, from what you are saying, it makes it sound like the 20-rounder overshoots the catch? How is it possible if it goes above where it needs to be and not "click" on the mag release? Could you explain more? Thanks.
That's what it seems like it's doing. If I get time tonight, I'll take a video. There is some up and down movement of the magazines (evident by the slight gap between the grip and magazine), and this particular one can be pushed up higher on slide lock, and there's no lockin of the mag release, but the mag just sits there .

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Post by blueorison » 07 Dec 2011, 05:37

That means the mag catch is not catching at all on the mag as it goes up, and the mag overshoots it. That is very odd.

Because I don't remember that EA modifies anything on the magazine release...

I'm sure the issue will be worked out, seems really simple. Can you confirm that the mag indent on your magazine is the same for the rest of the mags that work properly?
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I'll look tonight.

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Post by panzermk2 » 07 Dec 2011, 11:55

If you have a polymer release it might be showing some wear.
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Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Post by blueorison » 08 Dec 2011, 21:57

Buffman, I couldn't really tell which ones were the problem magazines.

They all seemed to drop free besides the Promag (I don't like anything Promag, sidenote).

Can you just do a video with the problem mags and do a close-up showing which ones have their indents on the magazines slide up past the mag catch without catching?

And which ones aren't drop free?

Sorry for the trouble I saw you use many mags really quickly and didn't get a solid picture.
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Re: Elite Ammunition Trigger Work Questions, Comments, Conce

Post by Buffman » 08 Dec 2011, 22:07

Yeah sorry. Camerawoman was being impatient. Originally I only noticed the first one I show in the video to go up past what it felt like it should. I had another at the range do the same thing when I shot Pro IIs. It didn't lock the slide back, and then it didn't drop free. I stopped using that one yesterday, and then put 150 rounds through it. When I got home the one with the Pro II's still didn't drop free, but the one with the S4 now does.

I mainly was just wondering if those internal mold lines should be that pronounced.

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