Ryan Herle aka Medula Oblongata

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Post by Sniperjoe » 20 Sep 2009, 13:45

panzermk2wife wrote:The lord works in mysterious ways. I believe GOD will take care of him in his own "special way"
Ain't he actually sick, like ill sick, or was that bs as well?

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BS.
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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 13:47

It was bullshit.

He claimed before he came up here he had terminal Pancreatic (? spelling) Cancer and had 6 months to live.

Then he claims to go to a doctor once he moved up here and all of a sudden it was a misdiagnosis.
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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 14:33

Exactly Irish

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Post by Rapier1772 » 20 Sep 2009, 14:39

Should we go thru and edit out language? Potty mouths :p
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Post by Wollychop » 20 Sep 2009, 14:47

Opening post updated with previously unavailable information, the last back and forth between Ryan and a member of the staff.

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Post by Buffman » 20 Sep 2009, 16:48

I'm not sure if I missed it, but does EA still retain the loading names and "receipes" for the 5.7x28mm ammo, or was that some of RH's intellectual property?

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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 16:53

They belong to the company
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Post by Buffman » 20 Sep 2009, 17:00

Good to know..

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Post by Vortec MAX » 20 Sep 2009, 18:20

I guess this means there's no chance of me getting one of those 5.7 x 28 how to DVDs with recipes now. :p

By the way, MO told me that the crimping die I bought from him was the same as EA is using in production. It this a true statement?

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Post by DAUG » 20 Sep 2009, 18:26

Holy shit, WTF just happened! I just don't know what I'm feeling right now after reading through these pages . . . mostly confused and betrayed for being sucked into it so completely . . . I suppose like everyone else! Hmm, makes me less trusting, and I hate feeling this way. I didn't know Ryan personally, but I liked him, and that's hard to deal with all these conflicting feelings.

Anyway one of the reasons I joined this forum, and what keeps me interested here is the way the Forum leadership/staff deals with difficult and devisive issues to one if its core values . . . and boy is this one is a f*#$ing whopper! Thank you for keeping it honest, letting us in on the truth, and more importantly keeping it REAL! I admire you all for the mature handling of this very sensitive situation.
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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 18:28

Vortec MAX wrote:I guess this means there's no chance of me getting one of those 5.7 x 28 how to DVDs with recipes now. :p

By the way, MO told me that the crimping die I bought from him was the same as EA is using in production. It this a true statement?

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He told Jay that they were from his personal stash.

Only Ryan & God know the truth on that Mike.
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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 18:29

Daug,

Believe me when I started putting 2 and 2 together it made me sick for weeks.
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Post by blueorison » 20 Sep 2009, 19:00

From the conversation in the first post between Cyberfly and MO, it seemed that he was backing off because he was beginning to feel embarrassed and ashamed when he was caught and confronted so at that moment he agreed to back off... but later he garnered up his resentment and lashed back at EA and the people that used to surround him.

I do wish him the best and hope that he would not harass anyone else.
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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 19:05

In the past several hours I have been called and emailed with so much shit he has said about Jay & I in the past 2 weeks the only thing I can do is laugh because he is so far of this planet.
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Post by SSBiggun » 20 Sep 2009, 20:54

Jay and Lisa,
After reading this whole thread and remembering some of the claims in the past let me state that I am truly sorry for what you have had to suffer through with his actions. In all honesty I probably would not have been as successful with my own 5.7 reloading without Ryan's advice. He was helpful at times though it will in no way excuse the abnormal behavior there were some positives over the years. I hope he can someday be comfortable with who he really is.

Fly, Thanks for handling like a professional when it became public knowledge.

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Post by karbuv » 20 Sep 2009, 21:01

I got one and it works fine. Sorry to hear about all this.
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Post by hammerhands32 » 20 Sep 2009, 21:22

Son of a %#*@^, Mother$%#@&#, peice of @%#$ and then wow. Ive been gobling up his B.S. happily for over a year

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Post by panzermk2wife » 20 Sep 2009, 21:30

Thank you for your kind words SSBiggun

We don't deny he knows about reloading.

It's all the lies about his age claiming to be 39 when in fact he's 33. Which is the same age as my younger brother.

All the LEO & military claims of being all these things and getting all the medals and so forth. Which is a slap in the face to all those who are past & current military as well as our officers past and present..

The lies of his work history ie working for the ATF, being head of a 4 billion dollar project so on & so forth

The stealing of company funds

And the things that hurt the most to me on an emotion level and being a woman it is multiply by millions: the lies just in the past 3 to 4 weeks. Putting a gun to his head, stealing from him, Jay being a former cocaine addict, me being a diagnosed schizophrenic, telling people that all 3 of our children are special needs children and that I am not tending to their "special needs". My children are happy, healthy and very well rounded children. And so many other hurtful lies.

These are the things that hurt me the most. We brought him up here as a friend, made him part of our family and he turns around and completely without batting an eyelash tried to run the company and our family.

Once he opens his eyes and realizes which in my own opinion will not happen he is going to see all his sins. He is one day going to have to answer for these sins. I just wish I could be a fly on the wall when that happens.

I sincerely hope no one expects me to have any sympathy for him, because I don't. I know it sounds cold, but walk in my shoes for a moment. There is no way I will every forgive and forget what he has done to my family. How much my family has lost. How much my children have lost due to his lies and stealing. To me he is dead. Ryan Herle no longer exists in my book. I will hate him for a very long time because of what he did to my family and I know I will have to confess that sin to our priest one day, but that day is not today, tomorrow, not next week and maybe not even a year from now. I think I deserve to hate him for a while.

Sorry for the rant guys, I just I had to get it off my chest because this has been building for months and physically and emotionally I have been drained.
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Post by f3rr37 » 20 Sep 2009, 21:59

hammerhands32 wrote:Son of a %#*@^, Mother$%#@&#, peice of @%#$ and then wow. Ive been gobling up his B.S. happily for over a year
For many of us, more than a year, I've been around since 2006 and have taken his word as gospel up until about a year ago.

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satellitedr3ams wrote:we all have lost here. lisa im sorry to hear. better sooner than later tho.

:( :agree:

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Post by blueorison » 20 Sep 2009, 22:19

:(

I'm sorry Lisa. I can't wish to understand how you're feeling as a mother and someone who trusted him with your family and I sincerely hope he doesn't hurt you any further.
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Post by panzermk2wife » 21 Sep 2009, 05:28

Thanks guys.

I guess he didn't expect everyone to figure out the deceit.

I feel really bad for those here on the forum as well who were duped by his deception as well. It just really boggles the mind.

But as I said we will all be stronger for this hard life experience and we will come out on top as a family here on the forum.

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Thats the thing about being a bullshitter. You can get away with it a lot easier on the internet than you can in real life. You don't have to look someone in the eye in real life. Cops have a sixth sense and he'd have had to try to pull that off everyday in real life, I think he would have been sniffed out a lot sooner.
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Post by apache » 21 Sep 2009, 08:04

Simply gut wrenching. My support and encouragement goes to all those here who have been hurt and damaged by this situation. EA, ( I still support you and your products and wish you success as you move on)

I tend to be naive and give trust until there is a reason not too... LOL I feel gullible as I bought most of the BS he posted.

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Post by BIGCAP » 21 Sep 2009, 08:37

"Wow" has been used alot on this thread but the word is appropriate.
Those of us that just had interaction on the net with Ryan will be hurt to some degree but live and in person interaction has really got to just suck.

Jay and Lisa I am truly sorry for what you had to endure and will do so for some time.

This is a sad day for all of us here on the forum. The "family" word has been used on this thread refering to this forum. All families have the one no one wants to talk about. I am sorry now we have one that was so prominent. But the truth is always best and we will move on.

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Post by Zhurdan » 21 Sep 2009, 08:38

Wow! I just bought stuff from him not too long ago. Quite possibly the weirdest thing I've heard on the internet in regards to forums.

Good luck to EA in the financial recovery... and regardless of who he hurt, good luck to MO to get healthy. If indeed he is sick.

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Post by p99guy » 21 Sep 2009, 09:40

I'm feeling numb (and dumb) I've thought I knew him for quite a while now...sold him a couple of guns without trouble , and gave him my old bullet proof vest when he said he deperatley needed one for employment at a Nebraska police dept.(and didnt have the money for one) I even met him once a couple of years ago..and did'nt have any reason to doubt what he said. I did'nt have the dealings with him that the rest of the staff did in the last year or so....So I wasnt activly comparing one story to the next. And hadnt spoken to him in a while.
So yes, this hit me like a dirty piss'wet mop right across the face to find out he was such a con man/mental case,
and my trust had been taken for a ride and rolled off a cliff. clean words cannot express what i feel right now.
His actions hurt a whole bunch of people and the forum...and the forums reletions with others.

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Post by panzermk2 » 21 Sep 2009, 10:59

Of all things Ryan has now attacked my children calling them "Special needs children" and that we are neglecting them. While I have nothing against children with special needs attacking mine in such a way shows what a worthless deplorable THING of a human being Ryan has become.
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Post by Zhurdan » 21 Sep 2009, 11:21

Panzer,
That does change things a little. I hope Ryan can get some help with whatever issues he may have, but I'd be hard pressed to not go whop 'em up side the head if he was trashing on my kids (if I had any). Just make sure you DON'T in fact go whop'em up side the head. That'll do nothing good for you or your family.

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Post by panzermk2wife » 21 Sep 2009, 11:42

The only thing saving Ryan is our 3 children.
And he is too stupid to realize it.
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panzermk2wife wrote:The only thing saving Ryan is our 3 children.
And he is too stupid to realize it.
The only thing saving private Ryan is ? :lmao:
Sorry Lisa I couldnt help it.

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Post by panzermk2wife » 21 Sep 2009, 12:04

:laugh:

I'll give you that one

It was funny
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SSBiggun wrote:
panzermk2wife wrote:The only thing saving Ryan is our 3 children.
And he is too stupid to realize it.
The only thing saving private Ryan is ? :lmao:
Sorry Lisa I couldnt help it.
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Post by Mister Freeze » 21 Sep 2009, 13:41

Jay & Lisa, I would not have been so kind. It would have been next to impossible not to use some EA on him.

Am I to infer he gained employment under false pretenses? Between that and the misuse of company funds...

He crossed the line when it came to your kids. With 2 of my own, them's fightin' (and dyin') words!

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Post by panzermk2wife » 21 Sep 2009, 17:03

Here is my response to Ryan

You are the one that broke the agreement between the forum and us when you opened your mouth to others with the lies you have been spewing and you absolutely crossed the line talking about OUR children.

Let's take a trip down memory lane Ryan.

These were taken on Thanksgiving 2008
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I see happy healthy children having fun with Ryan Herle....

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I feel for you guys. I know part of Ryan was a good guy. I am just sorry there was a part that wasn't. It really does break my heart to think about what you guys are going through right now. I hope Ryan can get some help and realize that people will like that good part of him without lying about who he really is. People aren't so superficial that they will think less of someone who doesn't have superior experience and credentials. He obviously knew his stuff about reloading, and we would have all respected him for just that.

What it really boils down to is... people respect someone who is honest, regardless of who he is.

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Vortec MAX wrote:People aren't so superficial that they will think less of someone who doesn't have superior experience and credentials. He obviously knew his stuff about reloading, and we would have all respected him for just that.
What it really boils down to is... people respect someone who is honest, regardless of who he is.
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Actually, you guys treat me pretty well and I really don't know half what most of you do about reloading or shooting. I've learned much more than I've contributed. May not be 'respected' but I am tolerated :laugh: Thanks!
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It's your rapier wit . :clap:
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Rapier1772 wrote:
Vortec MAX wrote:People aren't so superficial that they will think less of someone who doesn't have superior experience and credentials. He obviously knew his stuff about reloading, and we would have all respected him for just that.
What it really boils down to is... people respect someone who is honest, regardless of who he is.
Mike
Actually, you guys treat me pretty well and I really don't know half what most of you do about reloading or shooting. I've learned much more than I've contributed. May not be 'respected' but I am tolerated :laugh: Thanks!
ha, what about me?, im a stupid ass 18 year old New York college student :laugh:. I probly know less about reloading and have less experiance with guns than 98% of the people on this forum. Christ ive only went to my first gun show like last month. I feel as if im at the very least SOMEWHAT liked around here :laugh:

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Post by blueorison » 21 Sep 2009, 18:59

Sniperjoe wrote: I feel as if im at the very least SOMEWHAT liked around here :laugh:
Hm. It's about time we do something about that.
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Re: Ryan Herle aka Medula Oblongata

Post by EARS » 21 Sep 2009, 19:53

Well..... :lmao:

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Re: Ryan Herle aka Medula Oblongata

Post by Cymru » 21 Sep 2009, 22:22

Well.... DAMN!

I just spent the last several days fighting another case of kidney stones and now that my tummy area is feeling better, I logon and get a kicked in the stomach feeling reading this.

I keep quite all the time because I have a bad habit of saying really stupid stuff but I'm not going to hold my tongue on this one...

Ryan, I hope you get the help that you apparently and so desperately need. You've hurt and/or dissappointed a lot of people on the forum, myself included. Through the years, on both the old and new forum, I was always entertained by the way you were able to thrash the "posers", I guess it's true that those who yell the loudest have the most to hide.

As an active duty AF member, I find it deplorable how you portreyed your military service. I remember back in January you posted about running into an old service-mate at the Shot Show. This man was a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient. You told us all how it was the single greatest honor of your life how that Soldier remembered you from some previous posting together. I don't remember the details (and now your posts and pictures have been removed) but I seem to recall there was a picture of the two of you standing together. This Hero's arm was draped across your shoulders in a manly buddy-hug. I doubt that had he known the falsehoods you had been telling he would have given you the time of day, much less taken his picture with you. I would gladly pay to have that mans uniform replaced so that he would not have to further contaminate his honor and heroism with your filth. I think there was even mention that he let you wear his CMoH, although at this point I would have to raise the B.S flag on that one. You have dishonored yourself and the men and women who have and are still serving, fighting and dying on a daily basis.

Lisa... Jay... I'm truely sorry this wretch has repaid the generousity of opening your home and hearts in the way he has.

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Re: Ryan Herle aka Medula Oblongata

Post by f3rr37 » 21 Sep 2009, 23:07

Jay can elaborate on the MoH story at Shot Show.

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Re: Ryan Herle aka Medula Oblongata

Post by stateofbliss » 22 Sep 2009, 01:40

Sniperjoe wrote: ha, what about me?, im a stupid ass 18 year old New York college student :laugh:. I probly know less about reloading and have less experiance with guns than 98% of the people on this forum. Christ ive only went to my first gun show like last month. I feel as if im at the very least SOMEWHAT liked around here :laugh:
Hey Joe, How do you mix an 18 year old in NY at a gun show? Isn't one mutually exclusive of the other, like NY and gun show? :thumb:
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Re: Ryan Herle aka Medula Oblongata

Post by Sniperjoe » 22 Sep 2009, 10:09

stateofbliss wrote:
Sniperjoe wrote: ha, what about me?, im a stupid ass 18 year old New York college student :laugh:. I probly know less about reloading and have less experiance with guns than 98% of the people on this forum. Christ ive only went to my first gun show like last month. I feel as if im at the very least SOMEWHAT liked around here :laugh:
Hey Joe, How do you mix an 18 year old in NY at a gun show? Isn't one mutually exclusive of the other, like NY and gun show? :thumb:
:laugh: , well the gun show WAS in New York state, which is where my guns are anyway. The only way to see a gun show here is in the back of a trunk :laugh:. And the 18 thing........well maby thats just because im so damn awsome :D .............ok, probly not

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