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Post by jgreenberg01 » 03 Oct 2011, 17:51

WolfRulz wrote:Has any one tried the YHM Phantom Ti on a 5.7 SBR??? Works great on my .223 - 16" (subsonic Ammo) - Just wondering.
Yes. Look at this video:

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Post by WolfRulz » 25 Nov 2011, 14:15

My test results - on the YHM Phantom Ti on an AR57 SBR is a rating of 4 (firing SS197). I have basicaly the same setup as jgreenberg01 (nice video - thanks).
It does make a distinctive 'swishing-ping' sound - I think that's the bullet breaking the sound barrier just as it exits and it's quickly followed by the 'SLAP' of the bullet hitting the backstop. I noticed that the Phantom gets hot - REAL HOT after running 50 rounds thru it - I use a silicon pot holder (a dimpled square, good grip and fits nicely in my range bag) to remove it and it does take a while to cool down enough to put it in it's storage bag :laugh:
I'm now reloading my own 40gr Vmax successfully so I'm ready to try creating some subsonics.
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Post by cHaMeLeoN352 » 24 Jan 2012, 15:39

I don't know if anyone saw this yet:

Silencerco's new saker 5.56 suppressor



I own the Osprey 45 suppressor for my USP tactical, which is top notch, so I will be picking up one of these.

I am actually in the market for a 7.62 can that doubles as my 5.56, but I expect the 7.62 at next years SHOT show. If they released the 7.62 first, no one would buy the 5.56.

I like how both ends of the can are adaptable and the flash hider eliminates resonance.

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Post by garzaro » 05 Mar 2012, 18:04

Guys, yes I am new and thus asking stupid questions you pros have heard a hundred times! Thanks ahead of time
I won a Sparrow22 with the $200 for the tax stamp! I will be submitting the proper paperwork and of course the dealer will hold my suppressor until then...

guys i need to find out how to put this can on my soon to pick up five seven pistol :cya: :cya: posting.php?mode=reply&f=17&t=8215#
1) do in need to buy drop in barrel and get it modded
2) should I get my original barrel modded
3) who should do the work and avg cost?
4) will the Sparrow below with 1/2 x28 threads go on without additional adapter

PS: I own the ruger tactical 10/22 which comes threaded from factory and ruger charger 10/22, fun and cheap plinkers for my boys and I
PLUS my fav, PS90, which I hope to officially (batfe paperwork)convert to shortened/threaded barrel at a later time.


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Silencerco - 22 Sparrow SS
Caliber
.22 lr

Additional Calibers
.17 hmr
.22 mag
.22 wmr
5.7×28 FN

Multi Caliber Use
The stainless steel 22Sparrow is rated and warrantied for use with all rimfire rounds, .22 diam and under such as .17 hmr and .22 mag. It is also rated for use with the 5.7×28 FN round.

Full Auto Use
The 22Sparrow is rated for full auto .22 lr machine guns.
Weight
6.5 oz
Diameter
1.062"
Length
5.08"
Sound reduction
41dB*
* tested with Walther P22, CCI Standard Velocity, 70 degrees, 5100' elevation.
Material
Alloy Steel
Heat Treated 17-4 PH Stainless Steel
Finish
Black Oxide
Magnesium Phosphate (Outer Tube)
Mount
½×28 threads
Thread Options
Don't engage o-ring
Thread should be standard .5×28tpi Class 3A threads with a length of .400"

Engage o-ring
Our innovative Sparrow O-ring engagement offers the additional advantage of keeping the muzzle threads of the host weapon clean and the suppressor is held secure with an o-ring placed inside the female threads to which the host weapon would thread. Silencerco offers custom adapters for the Walther P-22, The Sig Mosquito, the GSG 1911/22 to take advantage of the o-ring engagement. Note: The 22Sparrow will thread on any standard .5×28 threads and any other silencer threaded in .5×28 will thread on our adapters. Minimum overall thread and o-ring engagement is .476".
The 22Sparrow is the first silencer in the world to offer the patent pending Multi Part Containment (MPC) technology, which allows the 22Sparrow to be easily disassembled for cleaning and maintenance after heavy use.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 05 Mar 2012, 19:10

you dont need to hurry and get a barrel. the stamp wont be approved for at least 6 months. some people choose to get a new barrel, others choose to get their stock barrel threaded. along with the threading, you will need a custom adaptor to convert it from 10x1m to silencerco's 1/2x28 o ring threads.

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Post by garzaro » 06 Mar 2012, 20:50

thank you, will the adapter add much length to the already extended threaded barrel? any suggestions for who you would recommend for the job?

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Post by srt-4_jon » 06 Mar 2012, 20:57

Yes it will add length. I don't have my fsn threaded so I can't recommend anyone personally

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Post by OnyxSkyDV » 23 Mar 2012, 20:13

I can verify the SWR Spectre sounds great on my SBR PS90. I don't really hear much first round pop, and to me the sound is 3 - 4 with subsonics, both the QuiTor and my own homerolled 55gr SP subs.


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Post by slimpikins » 03 Oct 2012, 15:36

Well boys, I suppose I will have to finally post a photo of my proprietary reflex suppressor for the PS 90 I designed and built. The platform is a standard 16 inch barrel PS 90 with a quick detach (1/4 turn) titanium suppressor which slides over the entire barrel and has the look of a P90 with a screw on unit. It's very quiet with sub-sonic ammo, pop gun sound, and with supersonic ammo, shooting without hearing protection is very comfortable... love it!

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Post by Esteves » 04 Oct 2012, 12:28

slimpikins wrote:Well boys, I suppose I will have to finally post a photo of my proprietary reflex suppressor for the PS 90 I designed and built. The platform is a standard 16 inch barrel PS 90 with a quick detach (1/4 turn) titanium suppressor which slides over the entire barrel and has the look of a P90 with a screw on unit. It's very quiet with sub-sonic ammo, pop gun sound, and with supersonic ammo, shooting without hearing protection is very comfortable... love it!
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Post by panzermk2 » 04 Oct 2012, 14:13

Esteves wrote:
slimpikins wrote:Well boys, I suppose I will have to finally post a photo of my proprietary reflex suppressor for the PS 90 I designed and built. The platform is a standard 16 inch barrel PS 90 with a quick detach (1/4 turn) titanium suppressor which slides over the entire barrel and has the look of a P90 with a screw on unit. It's very quiet with sub-sonic ammo, pop gun sound, and with supersonic ammo, shooting without hearing protection is very comfortable... love it!
Pics (or video), or it ain't true. :D

If this is who I think it is they have been using some of our SS 16.5 to test.
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Post by slimpikins » 22 Dec 2012, 05:53

The reflex suppressor is a pop gun with FN sub-sonic ammo, however the ammo is VERY dirty causing fouling in the barrel and bolt. I suspect this might well be due to its being designed for use in a 10 inch barrel and the longer 16 inch barrel traps too much debris. It caused a bullet to jam in the barrel and get slammed by a following round. Not good.

After removal of the jammed bullets, I went over to using stock super-sonic ammo, blue tip variety and not one problem. It's obviously a little louder, however no hearing protection is required and it's much quieter than a standard .22LR round. I tried some of the sub-sonic rounds offered by Elite Ammo in the two loads produced, but neither were sub sonic as clocked by the Chronograph and hence about the same noise as standard blue tip. I don't know why this is, perhaps it's due to the factory 16 inch barrel.

I feel this set up is fantastic for use with standard ammo, which is much less costly and is usable without any hearing protection and yet has full velocity vs. sub-sonic. I am very pleased with this system. Plus the suppressor is on a quick detach mounting at the receiver end, so breakdown after use for cleaning is a matter of 2 seconds.

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Post by panzermk2 » 22 Dec 2012, 10:45

Have you tried our barrel specific sub sonic ammo? I just reformulated the 10.5 to reduce residue.
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Post by srt-4_jon » 22 Dec 2012, 13:33

finally got my FsN threaded. Liberty Kodiak and my normal supersonic reloads. No need for hearing protection. Works great.

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Post by jmz5 » 22 Dec 2012, 17:46

I need to get me a threaded barrel...
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Post by panzermk2 » 22 Dec 2012, 19:53

jmz5 wrote:I need to get me a threaded barrel...

Do you know someone who can get you one? :p
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Post by Buffman » 23 Dec 2012, 10:42

I need a threaded barrel as well. I wonder how well an Osprey would work on 5.7 :)

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Post by panzermk2 » 23 Dec 2012, 19:31

Buffman wrote:I need a threaded barrel as well. I wonder how well an Osprey would work on 5.7 :)

It's OK the Gemtech is the best I have found so far. Size, weight etc. it strikes the best balance.
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Post by Buffman » 23 Dec 2012, 20:21

people have used an Osprey 45 can on a 5.7? I was joking, as I didn't think it could handle the pressure

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Post by srt-4_jon » 23 Dec 2012, 21:03

Of course it can. between the volume/bore size, it can handle tons of sub calibers. Pressure isnt the only thing a suppressor needs to worry about, volume is the other. The 5.7x28 doesn't have a lot of volume. Thats why quite a few .22 suppressors can handle it. The Osprey .45 is also rated for 10mm.

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Post by jgreenberg01 » 24 Dec 2012, 07:05

I will have a Spectre II whenever the ATF gets around to approving the tax stamp (they say March-ish). I got it for my Ruger 10/22 & S&W M&P22 but it's multi-caliber so I'll also track down a threaded barrel for the FsN when I get the suppressor and we'll see how that one works.

It had the best average sound reduction while maintaining the best accuracy of these cans that were tested:

http://www.americanrifleman.org/article ... Silencerco" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


EDIT: Jay - I just noticed that as per your website there's a 10-12 week lead time on the threaded barrels - I don't know if you can even answer this, but with all the panic buying going on, is this still a reasonable estimate for ETA?
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Post by jmz5 » 24 Dec 2012, 08:42

Spectre 2 is an awesome can. It pretty much lives on my S&W 15-22.
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Post by panzermk2 » 24 Dec 2012, 12:37

jgreenberg01 wrote:I will have a Spectre II whenever the ATF gets around to approving the tax stamp (they say March-ish). I got it for my Ruger 10/22 & S&W M&P22 but it's multi-caliber so I'll also track down a threaded barrel for the FsN when I get the suppressor and we'll see how that one works.

It had the best average sound reduction while maintaining the best accuracy of these cans that were tested:

http://www.americanrifleman.org/article ... Silencerco" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


EDIT: Jay - I just noticed that as per your website there's a 10-12 week lead time on the threaded barrels - I don't know if you can even answer this, but with all the panic buying going on, is this still a reasonable estimate for ETA?

No damn clue.
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Post by Burt Gummer » 28 Mar 2013, 21:18

My Sparrow takes the bite out of the pistol, but not hearing safe (imo). My Mystic, although big, cycles fine and is hearing safe. Have not tried my Osprey yet.

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Post by bravo619 » 04 May 2013, 15:59

I have the AAC Ti Rant 45 and its really quiet and when you shoot it wet its scary quiet, I thought it would be front heavy but with a full mag it evens out and the tall Heine tactical night sights aiming isn't a problem. I've heard cap guns that are twice as loud. I love it and use it on my HK 45c and vector super v cqb. Image

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Post by offtheace » 13 Jun 2013, 16:47

I have a Thunderbeast 22-L1. I've only used SS195LF so far. The suppression was fantastic. Most of the noise I heard was coming from round hitting the target. Only firing this from my FiveseveN pistol though I felt unacceptable amounts of blowback. I'd give this a 3 for the sound but a 0 for the blowback. I'm considering a 9mm suppressor or perhaps larger.

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Post by panzermk2 » 15 Jun 2013, 09:29

offtheace wrote:I have a Thunderbeast 22-L1. I've only used SS195LF so far. The suppression was fantastic. Most of the noise I heard was coming from round hitting the target. Only firing this from my FiveseveN pistol though I felt unacceptable amounts of blowback. I'd give this a 3 for the sound but a 0 for the blowback. I'm considering a 9mm suppressor or perhaps larger.
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Post by Fridge Raptor » 26 Jul 2013, 17:54

Has anyone tried an AAC Element 2 on a FSN pistol?

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Post by sean48238 » 03 Jun 2014, 14:33

Hey guys whats the best can for the ps90 SBR for quick detach mount?

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Post by Rapier1772 » 03 Jun 2014, 16:47

For quick detach stuff, Gemtech G5 is pretty good. They also sell the flash hider mate for the PS90
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Post by Rapier1772 » 17 Feb 2017, 12:55

FINALLY got my new suppressor, an Elite Iron Echo for the 5.7. (Which they've apparently discontinued?)
Using subsonic ammo (3.4gr HS-6, 55gr FMJ), it is quieter than my Gemtech. GT was about like a loud paintball gun but still kinda wanted hearing protection. Last night I fired 20rd through the Echo & I don't think it's loud enough to worry about.
I did not try any factory ammo but with supersonic rounds one will likely need to use ear plugs anyway.
Also, the diameter of the suppressor is smaller than I realized. Looking down the sights, I don't notice the suppressor at all; the slide completely obscures it. I'd score it at a 4

It is heavy when compared to the GT & even when compared to the FsN itself.
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EDIT: Had a friend with the electronic ear muffs on, they didn't activate when I fired subsonics through the Echo.
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Post by GONRA » 15 Mar 2017, 13:26

Based on yer "7 month" info, GONRA's expecting Gemtech around May.
Interested in your handload! What brass & primer did you use?

Intention was to use the ORIGINAL EA brass - "drastically reduced case capacity"
but am accumlating data needed to blast away when it arrries.
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Post by Rapier1772 » 17 Mar 2017, 01:42

GONRA wrote:
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Based on yer "7 month" info, GONRA's expecting Gemtech around May.
Interested in your handload! What brass & primer did you use?

Intention was to use the ORIGINAL EA brass - "drastically reduced case capacity"
but am accumlating data needed to blast away when it arrries.
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Post by GONRA » 07 Sep 2017, 09:50

GONRA received GEMTECH. About 10 months 3 weeks BATF wait tyme. Guesss I'm "Special"?
Hope to blast away next week. Have Fun Fellas.....

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Post by panzermk2 » 11 Sep 2017, 06:53

Sweet!
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Post by GONRA » 13 Sep 2017, 12:58

GONRA’s first shootin’ with suppressor.
Following setup was a HUGE SUCCESS.
5.7x28mm FN Five-seveN® pistol 20 rd. mag, Viridian Universal Mount Green Laser.
Sights / laser were setup / adjusted with FN’s original barrel.
Try to beat this setup fellas.....

Today used (first time) EA 20 lb. recoil spring and threaded FiveSeveN EFK Fire Dragon barrel
GEMTECH SFN-57 suppressor with 10x1mm metric RH threads.

Shot 5 rounds new factory FNB 14 ammo. Had other shooters shoot 2 more 5 rd. strings
so I could try to figger out where fired cases went and listen to “supersonic suppressed noise”.
STRONG EJECTION, FLAT PRIMERS, MUCH QUIETER.
Found 8 fired cases (looked Just Fine) – remainder are in somewhere in “weed heaven”
after bouncing off sheet metal corrugated roof.

This rough “3 (experienced) shooters 25 yard test” had nice overlapping groups. Maybe 8 inches.
We noted how easy it is (obvious sights, nice trigger pull, no real recoil) to blast away with this setup.

Really pleased, fun to shoot, etc.
Plan on loading up subsonic ammo next, after cleaning up a couple other Pointless Retired Man gun projects.

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Post by tps3443 » 23 Dec 2017, 12:03

When I shot my PS90, I put (150) rounds through it. And I did not need hearing protection at all! It sounded like a .22LR rifle.
I was using American Eagle I’m sure this is why it was so quiet!

Moving to using my Five SeveN and it’s very loud.

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Post by drgntkd » 11 Dec 2019, 08:11

So, I know this is an old thread, but Jay wolf brought it up on Facebook, so I figured I would add to it. I bought an Innovative Arms Slingshot TI to use with my 22's and my FiveseveN.

I would add a rating based on the original scale at a 3.

It is quiet with a deep tone. The main thing I don't like about it (and 90%+ of all silencers out there) is that it does not allow for direct thread. I spoke with a company called AB Suppressors and they can make their Little Bird with the thread pitch for the FiveseveN, but it is a special run. I bet if we get enough people to ask about it, they might make one available that is direct thread. I have not heard it on a FiveseveN yet, but I have held one. They are very thin and light. It would be interesting to see how they perform. I might get my buddy to take me out and we can try it on mine.

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Post by panzermk2 » 12 Dec 2019, 13:25

Input added.


Yeah that is the issue with the small FsN barrels. The original Gemtec SFN-57 was one of the few that direct threaded.
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Post by Monroe82 » 22 Sep 2020, 01:53

I am interested in the "few" if any that will direct thread on my efk 57 pitch?. Even the new gsl tech has adapter..

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