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BATF Form 1 Paperwork Link/Required Form #'s

Post by jmz5 » 27 Aug 2008, 05:48

BATF Form 1 Paperwork Link/Required Form #'s

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Its a 200.00 one time Tax

you need two ATF form 1's

Two FD-258 "Blue" FBI fingerprint cards

two ATF F5330.20 Certification of compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922

Two passport photos

one U.S. postal money order or check for 200.00 made payable to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
You also need the signature of the chief Law Enforcement officer over your residential address.

here is where you order the forms and fingerprint cards online

http://www.atf.treas.gov/dcof/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Mailing addresses

Form 1

ATF NFA Branch
244 Needy Rd.
Martinsburg, WV. 25401

Form 4

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
National Firearms Act Branch
P.O. Box 530298
Atlanta, GA 30353-0298


The phone number for status checks is: 304-616-4500

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/12120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... hanges.htm

http://www.titleii.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Esteves » 27 Aug 2008, 07:03

It's included above, but the http://www.titleii.com/Forms.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Title II electronic forms are a little bit easier to use than the hard copy or soft copy supplied by ATF (http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#firearms" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
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Post by abatis » 27 Aug 2008, 07:30

Also depending on the state you live in it is easy to setup a corporation and transfer the class 3 weapon as an asset of the corporation. Doing it this way in a state like Colorado eliminates the need for a local law enforcement signoff, pictures etc. However the officer of the corp responsible for the weapon will get a background check. This is really a painless way to do it if you can.
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Post by Esteves » 27 Aug 2008, 08:51

Even more painless than the corporation route is to form a revocable living trust. Similar benefits, less overhead and maintainance. http://arizonagunlist.com/How_to_buy_NF ... gnoff.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by flyingirish04 » 27 Aug 2008, 10:03

This is a dynamite post to get back on the forum. Nice work guys!
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Post by f3rr37 » 27 Aug 2008, 10:38

flyingirish04 wrote:This is a dynamite post to get back on the forum. Nice work guys!
Agreed, thanks for posting that link Esteves, makes me want to get a Living Trust for my (hopefully) future NFA goodies.

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Post by tejohnson » 27 Aug 2008, 10:43

Second to last link broken. Should be: http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/12120 ... hanges.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: BATF Form 1 Paperwork Link/Required Form #'s

Post by EVERDO2 » 20 Feb 2009, 05:36

Anyone know how long it takes to recieve your forms after they are ordered? I have been waiting for over two weeks already?

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Post by jmz5 » 20 Feb 2009, 06:02

Bout a week and a half, depending how busy they are, and how often they mail forms.
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Post by EVERDO2 » 23 Feb 2009, 08:42

Thanks, guess I'll wait a bit longer.

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Post by fatherfoof » 23 Feb 2009, 09:13

Think the MS 13 boys are filling out the paperwork? Ever feel like walking into a federal office handing out all these forms and ask to see the clerk's green card? :evil: We keep saying law abiding but you need a law degree just to be compliant.
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Post by downtrodden » 24 Feb 2009, 17:52

Just a suggestion for someone who may be bored and knowledgeable- maybe clean this thread up and then make it into a repository of FAQ material about the SBR process, like step by step know how from Which barrel twist rates work best for what kind of ammo, who makes barrels, When you need to fill out which form(making SBR vs. Buying already converted SBR), who qualifies as a "chief LEO" and the legal ways to circumvent signature (Trust or LLC) and maybe some tips from people who have formed Trusts solely for the purposes of SBRs and Silencers... That's another topic to touch on, who makes Silencers for the Ps90 and Fiveseven and options for mounting silencers.... I think it would save a lot of people a lot of breath if someone could put as much info as possible in an easy to understand post. The process of SBRing is so daunting that it scares people away from what seems to be a fantastic and fulfilling aspect of our hobby...

For instance I live in a county where the sheriff and judge has said "No class 3 in MY county- unless you're my friend" it's legal here- they just refuse to sign, so i have to form a trust... but I don't know if it would look weird that i'm a young man, i own nothing of value to pass along and i'm not married and have no children- so i have nothing to leave to anyone... Can i still form a trust? Or better yet- how should i write my trust? I have some valuables like my unfired NDM-86- but nothing big like a car or home or vast amounts of money, you know?

Anyway, sorry for the rambling- it was just a thought and i know it's a big undertaking to write up a comprehensive post for this forum- but i figure most people here would benefit from the effort and proliferation of information helps expand our hobby!

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Re: BATF Form 1 Paperwork Link/Required Form #'s

Post by f3rr37 » 24 Feb 2009, 18:21

Add me to your trust as a friend :D

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Post by downtrodden » 24 Feb 2009, 18:36

f3rr37 wrote:Add me to your trust as a friend :D
:p

why so you can :guns: me and get what few toys i have!?

:lmao:

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Post by f3rr37 » 24 Feb 2009, 19:04

No, when you die I get your toys :D

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Post by romer522 » 24 Feb 2009, 19:29

Seems like trusts are the way to go nowadays regardless, no fingerprint cards, no passport pics, no signatures. Nothing holding you back other than the good old .gov and its painlessly slow process.

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Post by fatherfoof » 24 Feb 2009, 21:47

The FAQ idea is wonderful. Hey Mods-- how about it? We have the Wiki, but this would be superb and could be updated as needed. Thanx Downtrodden for a fantastic idea which I fully endorse. ff

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Post by f3rr37 » 25 Feb 2009, 09:47

I don't have any experience in it (SBR Process), but if you want access to edit the wiki all you have to do is ask.

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Post by downtrodden » 25 Feb 2009, 14:14

:X

My only experience was in getting told no by my sheriff and judge and then giving up when CMMG became so backlogged... i'd like to give another go at getting my Ps90 SBR'd though.. or buying an already SBR'd TR. from CMMG maybe. i don't know yet though. :?:

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Post by jmz5 » 25 Feb 2009, 14:31

Try your DA, they can sign off on it too.
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Post by zeebm4 » 18 Jan 2011, 16:05

If anyone doesn't want to go through the hastle of paying an attorney or website for a trust, I have a Sample Copy I have used in the past to get my stuff. I have been told that some states are more picky than others, but I know that mine works in CO.

If anyone wants it PM me and I can send it to ya.

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Post by jmz5 » 25 Jul 2011, 06:23

I have S. Snook, called today. It went pending May 9th.
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Post by kwesi » 25 Jul 2012, 19:32

jmz5: when I lived in Fl. Sandra (Sandy) Snook handled most of my Form 4's. She was always great to deal with and took my calls when I had a question.

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Re: BATF Form 1 Paperwork Link/Required Form #'s

Post by Esteves » 17 Nov 2012, 19:23

[email protected]#$

The NFA branch just returned two form 1s to me because box 3b included the word "The" before the name of the trust.

#$%@
$%^#
$#%@
!!!!111

I'm tempted to include a primer on articles and grammar along with my revised forms when I send them back.
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Post by jmz5 » 18 Nov 2012, 09:44

That stinks!! I want to send in a form 1 to SBR my 15-22, but i'm kinda waiting to see if the new e-forms ever come to life.
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Re: BATF Form 1 Paperwork Link/Required Form #'s

Post by rnelson11 » 14 Jan 2014, 04:44

downtrodden wrote:Just a suggestion for someone who may be bored and knowledgeable- maybe clean this thread up and then make it into a repository of FAQ material about the SBR process, like step by step know how from Which barrel twist rates work best for what kind of ammo, who makes barrels, When you need to fill out which form(making SBR vs. Buying already converted SBR), who qualifies as a "chief LEO" and the legal ways to circumvent signature (Trust or LLC) and maybe some tips from people who have formed Trusts solely for the purposes of SBRs and Silencers... That's another topic to touch on, who makes Silencers for the Ps90 and Fiveseven and options for mounting silencers.... I think it would save a lot of people a lot of breath if someone could put as much info as possible in an easy to understand post. The process of SBRing is so daunting that it scares people away from what seems to be a fantastic and fulfilling aspect of our hobby...

For instance I live in a county where the sheriff and judge has said "No class 3 in MY county- unless you're my friend" it's legal here- they just refuse to sign, so i have to form a trust... but I don't know if it would look weird that i'm a young man, i own nothing of value to pass along and i'm not married and have no children- so i have nothing to leave to anyone... Can i still form a trust? Or better yet- how should i write my trust? I have some valuables like my unfired NDM-86- but nothing big like a car or home or vast amounts of money, you know?

Anyway, sorry for the rambling- it was just a thought and i know it's a big undertaking to write up a comprehensive post for this forum- but i figure most people here would benefit from the effort and proliferation of information helps expand our hobby!
I live in SC and formed an NFA Trust for my AR15 SBR and suppressor. According to the lawyer who set up my trust it is only for NFA weapons. In other words you can not include your house, car or any other personal property. The main advantage of the trust is that you do not need LEO sign off, fingerprints or pictures with the application. The other advantage is that if something happens to you then whoever is assigned the trust legally owns the weapons and does not have to get rid of them within 30 days as would be the case if you owned the weapons yourself. In other words if you die then whoever inherits the weapons (if you have a will or not) illegally owns the weapons and can be arrested but usually the ATF will give then 30 days to dispose of them.

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