My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

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VitSports6
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My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 11 Mar 2015, 08:28

I know it was going to be a trial and error process...

FML!

75% success rate so far...

I went and picked up some 40gr. V-Max bullets, so I thought I would see about setting up the dies and resizing them, first case, stuck in the die, I get it out and use more lube, neck, everywhere I can, I get through 4 more then another stuck case

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So out of the 20 I tried, I got 15 usable pieces.

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Since that was going so well, I thought I would see about setting the seater die, here is an AE 40gr. Factory round next to my non primed/powdered 40gr. V-Max round, I need to check the OAL, my danged electric gauge needs batteries.

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I thought I read that I needed small pistol primers, which I bought, but it needs small rifle primers, oh well, I could always use more primers ;)
I will revisit this once I do a bit more reading, I also relubed the pad and I'm letting that soak in.
My intentions are to reload this with ~5.5 grains of Longshot, like what has been posted here.

My questions...
1- What is the preferred lube? I'm using RCBS Lube on a pad, is the Imperial Wax or some other spray better?
2- Is it better to load for the PS90 or FsN?
3- should I chamfer the necks of the cases?

Thanks for any and all suggestions

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 11 Mar 2015, 09:08

FWIW, I am using RCBS FL dies.
The cases don't seem to be terribly stuck, there just seems to be so little rim on the case to hang onto.
Thanks again.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 11 Mar 2015, 09:32

It was also suggested by Gimmond that I polish the sizing die, I figured I can do that!

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By the magic of the bore light my lovely wife made, here is another pic after a little polish.

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Now to run it through the ultrasonic again, to make sure it's all clean.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by kmiles » 11 Mar 2015, 09:59

I use the RCBS lube and pad as well for the 5.7x28. If you do a search on the forum, people have found a variety of lubes that work for them and their dies. Just takes some trial and error to see what works for you. 25% failure rate seems high to me. Hopefully polishing the die, and using a bit more lube will get it working 100% for you. I do not think I have ever had a case get stuck in the sizing die.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by Rapier1772 » 11 Mar 2015, 10:10

I'm using the same lube set up that you have, I don't have any problems.
How snug is your shell holder? When RCBS first got on the 5.7 wagon, theirs was pretty loose & that could explain why your shells are getting pulled out. I think they've fixed it but can't say for certain.
If I trim the case, I deburr & chamfer the neck.
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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 11 Mar 2015, 10:11

kmiles wrote:I use the RCBS lube and pad as well for the 5.7x28. If you do a search on the forum, people have found a variety of lubes that work for them and their dies. Just takes some trial and error to see what works for you. 25% failure rate seems high to me. Hopefully polishing the die, and using a bit more lube will get it working 100% for you. I do not think I have ever had a case get stuck in the sizing die.
Sounds good, thank you for taking the time to reply.
The lube and pad were my fathers, both are at least 30 years old, however they have worked on every other necked brass I have reloaded( .223, 30-06, 7.62x39 and 54, 30-30, ect.) I know that the 5.7 is a finicky round, so I'm trying anything.
Thanks again.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 11 Mar 2015, 10:20

Rapier1772 wrote:I'm using the same lube set up that you have, I don't have any problems.
How snug is your shell holder? When RCBS first got on the 5.7 wagon, theirs was pretty loose & that could explain why your shells are getting pulled out. I think they've fixed it but can't say for certain.
If I trim the case, I deburr & chamfer the neck.
I have noticed there is a small area on the shell holder where it looks like someone has tried to tighten the area where the rim is held.

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It's hard to see, but it does have a small dimple, not a flat area that would support the mayor of the rim when pulling it from the die.

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Maybe a newer shell holder might be in order, I bought it from a guy who works the gun counter at Sportsmans Wherehouse locally, everything I see shows zero use, other than being opened.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by grimmond » 11 Mar 2015, 14:10

I found Hornady's shell holder to be tighter then both Lee and RCBS. Another good one is the CH4D shell holder.
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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by shopsmart » 11 Mar 2015, 14:40

I have a #45 rcbs shell holder. It is cleaner edges and the one you have looks likes its WAY too rounded. Would explain the rim problems. Don't let this dissuade you from reloading this round. I must have been lucky to have no problems with my dies and shell holder.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 11 Mar 2015, 19:06

I'm going to look into a different shell holder, I tried one case tonight and it got stuck.

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, I will post up once I get another shell holder.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by DoubleJ » 11 Mar 2015, 19:12

I have good luck with Redding's sizing wax. It's a mess to work with, but I use it on weird stuff like 5.7 and for forming 300blk from LC brass.

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 12 Mar 2015, 08:34

DoubleJ wrote:I have good luck with Redding's sizing wax. It's a mess to work with, but I use it on weird stuff like 5.7 and for forming 300blk from LC brass.
Thank you sir!

Hornady shell holder on its way, I will look locally for the lube/was/spray stuff.
Thanks all!

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by CPTKILLER » 12 Mar 2015, 10:11

Nice photos,

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Re: My first attempt to reload 5.7x28

Post by VitSports6 » 12 Mar 2015, 11:21

CPTKILLER wrote:Nice photos,
Thanks!
I feel people like to see pictures rather than just read a bunch of text and it's not really difficult to do.

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